"In my mind, it`s clear who`s ultimately responsible by his tone, and that`s the President of the United States. So, and also because he`s not interested in finding out that he may be hurting people. So whether he`s a sociopath or just lazy, we have to be on guard all the time."
-Mark Desaulnier(D) California, Oversight Committee
interviewed on the Rachel Maddow Show October 30 2019
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